Update 4:13 pm: The FBI in Indianapolis wouldn't confirm or deny anything. They did refer me to:
Sue Ellen Pierce, Public Information Officer in North Carolina (704-338-3120). I left a message.
If there was no raid, wouldn't they be able to say that, without referring me to another state?
This morning I received the email below. I was hoping that it was a sick hoax, but corroborating information is trickling in. The Liberty Dollar website is not taking orders. This appears to be the largest gold heist in modern times and the fed's latest attempt to trample our rights. It is a truly sickening development.
Dear Liberty Dollar Supporters:
I sincerely regret to inform you that about 8:00 this morning a dozen FBI and Secret Service agents raided the Liberty Dollar office in Evansville.
For approximately six hours they took all the gold, all the silver, all the platinum and almost two tons of Ron Paul Dollars that where just delivered last Friday. They also took all the files, all the computers and froze our bank accounts.
We have no money. We have no products. We have no records to even know what was ordered or what you are owed. We have nothing but the will to push forward and overcome this massive assault on our liberty and our right to have real money as defined by the US Constitution. We should not to be defrauded by the fake government money.
But to make matters worse, all the gold and silver that backs up the paper certificates and digital currency held in the vault at Sunshine Mint has also been confiscated. Even the dies for mint the Gold and Silver Libertys have been taken.
This in spite of the fact that Edmond C. Moy, the Director of the Mint, acknowledged in a letter to a US Senator that the paper certificates did not violate Section 486 and were not illegal. But the FBI and Services took all the paper currency too.
The possibility of such action was the reason the Liberty Dollar was designed so that the vast majority of the money was in specie form and in the people’s hands. Of the $20 million Liberty Dollars, only about a million is in paper or digital form.
I regret that if you are due an order. It may be some time until it will be filled... if ever... it now all depends on our actions.
Everyone who has an unfulfilled order or has digital or paper currency should band together for a class action suit and demand redemption. We cannot allow the government to steal our money! Please don’t let this happen!!! Many of you read the articles quoting the government and Federal Reserve officials that the Liberty Dollar was legal. You did nothing wrong. You are legally entitled to your property. Let us use this terrible act to band together and further our goal – to return America to a value based currency.
Please forward this important Alert... so everyone who possess or use the Liberty Dollar is aware of the situation.
Please click HERE to sign up for the class action lawsuit and get your property back!
If the above link does not work you can access the page by copying the following into your web browser. http://www.libertydollar.org/classaction/index.php
Thanks again for your support at this darkest time as the damn government and their dollar sinks to a new low.
Bernard von NotHaus
Monetary Architect
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(The following is based upon recently received information, which I assume to be accurate. A message went out, claiming to be from Bernard von NotHaus, the "head dude" at Liberty Dollar, reporting the following. I'll let you know if I get more confirmation of its accuracy.)
But we neeeeeeeeeed "government" to protect us! From what? How about from armed robbers?
Well, a dozen armed robbers just pulled off what is probably the biggest precious metals heist in this country in a very long time. Somewhere around a million dollars in gold, silver, and platinum were stolen this morning by a dozen armed thugs. Unfortunately, the crooks got away. But don't worry, the government is on the case!
Unfortunately, they're "on the case" going after the VICTIMS of this crime. You see, the armed robbers were agents of the FBI and the Secret Service, and the victim was the "Liberty Dollar" organization--not to mention all the people who rightfully OWNED the stolen property.
I probably don't have to tell you the motive: the folks at Liberty Dollar, by offering an inflation-proof, precious-metals-backed currency, were messing with one of the tyrants' biggest power games: the robbery-via-"inflation" game. And in the land of the free, this is what happens when you threaten the megalomaniacs' power. Never mind that the Liberty Dollar is perfectly legal, as confirmed by U.S. officials. To hell with the law; there is POWER at stake, and you can bet that that "goddamn piece of paper" (as Bush called the Constitution) isn't going to stop Fuhrer W. and his jackboots from living out their little power trip fantasies.
So, are all you "limited government" Republicans proud of the regime you created? Is this fascist empire what you wanted? Let's see: "your" party got the House, the Senate, and the White House. And years later, what do you have to show for it? The biggest federal budget ever? The creation of the biggest federal bureaucracy ever? Wow, good thing the Democrats didn't get into power, or we'd be seeing the growth of "big government."
Wake up and smell the jackboots.
If you actually support the Bush regime, then put the damn swastika on your sleeve and be honest about it. If, on the other hand, you actually believe in "limited government," and you insist on engaging in the insane ritual of voting, then how about supporting the ONLY one in the presidential race (from either party) who ISN'T a devout collectivist, national socialist? And I don't want to hear any crap about "wasting your vote" on someone who can't win, or down the road, you can proudly tell your kids how you voted for the fascist/socialist who won, instead of the guy with PRINCIPLES who didn't. Yeah, there's something to be proud of. Again, for those who believe in the "election" ritual, you have two choices: Ron Paul, or totalitarianism. I don't know how much more proof of that you could possibly need.
Sincerely,
Larken Rose
Dear Subscriber,
Well, it was true: our wonderful protectors who work for the federal government just pulled off a massive armed robbery. Based on a few questions I got, I should give a little more info.
The "Liberty Dollar" is an alternative to the constantly devalued "Federal Reserve Notes" (what most people call "dollars"). In short, the Liberty Dollar is what all paper currency USED to be: a representation of actual silver or gold. The Liberty Dollar comes in coins made of precious metals, but it also comes as pieces of paper (lots better-looking that FRN's) which represent gold and silver. In other words, in a warehouse there is actual silver or gold which each paper Liberty Dollar represents. So people can trade with the paper, and they're exchanging ownership of the actual silver or gold sitting in the warehouse.
Fed-issued currency, on the other hand, is backed by NOTHING. They make up more constantly, out of thin air, which results in "inflation." In short, it amounts to counterfeiting--making up new money, which makes all the money already in circulation worth less than it was before.
Because it is backed by silver and gold, the Liberty Dollar is inflation-proof. In short, if we all traded in LD's, the fed would go out of business, and inflation would disappear. And tyrants would have a lot less power, which is why the federal Gestapo committed armed robbery this morning on the Liberty Dollar offices: to protect the power of tyrants.
Luckily, most of the silver and gold of Liberty Dollars is in private hands. However, about a million dollars of the actual silver and gold, represented by paper Liberty Dollars in the hands of lots of different people, was stolen by the feds. In other words, all those people holding the paper LD's were robbed of the gold/silver which the currency represents. (So you can see why I was more than a bit huffy in my last message.) If any lawyers are reading this, I highly suggest an immediate, class-action motion under Rule 41(g) of the Federal Rules of Criminal Procedural, to retrieve the gold and silver owned by all those holding paper LD's.
The legal excuse for the robbery is unclear at this point, except that a while ago the U.S. Mint made the false allegation that Liberty Dollars might violate federal currency laws--even though top U.S. officials have previously stated that that is NOT the case. But the "legal" excuse is irrelevant. The real reason is the preservation of power of megalomaniacs.
But there is another "detail" I didn't mention in my last message. Not only does the robbery protect the Federal Reserve's fiat currency scam, but as it happens, a rather large shipment of newly minted Liberty Dollars, with RON PAUL'S face on them, was also stolen. Golly gee, you don't think the Bush administration would steal them to try to keep an ACTUAL Constitutionalist out of power, do you? (If you don't think he would, you're an idiot.) Imagine a TON (literally) of Liberty Dollars with Ron Paul's face on them, circulating around the country. No wonder the federal fascists stole them all before that could happen.
Sincerely,
Larken Rose
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